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Scholastic dogmatism or ancient literature?

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I am taking advantage of this interesting section of the forum.

I'll start with

Handel - Recorder sonata in A minor (live)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GwI_nhcRVKU

Speaking of diminished sevenths? The example at 1:53 is fabulous (RE-DO-SI, FA-MI-RE, SI-LA-SOL#, RE-DO-SI). Even more impressive is 2:25, where the bass plays MI-LA (dominant-tonic) and the voice plays SOL#-LA(anticipation)-FA, which is a "turned" deceptive cadence.

The effect is amazing, it reminds me of Ravel (it's in the Quartet) and Fauré; in my opinion, this comes from organ registrations: if you use a "4-foot doubling," the standard bass movement ends up in the treble.

The point is that mine is an early music reading... scholastic dogmatism (and I think more Schönbergian) imposes paying attention to the "magnetism" of the bass movement.

What do you think?

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Reply 3 by Organista94

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Zaccaria wrote:

You know that I don't know what is meant by "doubling of 4 feet"

Real note notation involves the use of the organ's 8-foot stops; when using the 4-foot stop, the note written in the score will be played an octave higher precisely due to the effect of this stop.

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Reply 4 by Zaccaria

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Thank you Organista, I think I understand...

Silbermann wrote:

The point is that mine is an interpretation in the ancient style... scholastic dogmatism (and I think more Schönbergian) imposes paying attention to the "magnetism" of the bass movement.

At this point Silbermann, I think it is just a matter of "vision" and different points of view in the analysis...

I think Schönberg aims to justify the transition from the harmonic point of view and yours is eventually a "historical" justification... they seem perfectly compatible to me and not in opposition....

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