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Reply 2 by Piccinesco

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It is certainly interesting.

I noticed that they would be carried out in Bulgaria and this, which might perhaps be a coincidence, immediately made me think of a record label from Milan, SoundIva, which (though I am not certain) seems to me that for a few years now has been collaborating specifically with a Bulgarian orchestra to carry out recordings.

Certainly, "shared" recordings would allow for cost reduction since they would be carried out in a single session.

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Reply 6 by Thesimon

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They don't seem expensive to me at all... You aren't even paying musicians, sound technicians, and sound engineers 25 euros per hour. Not to mention the preparation and study time.

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Reply 7 by Oracolo

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I didn't understand what can be meant by

The recording time in a 30-minute session is 25 minutes.

The recording time of a 60-minute session is 50 minutes.

The recording time of a 90-minute session is 80 minutes.

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Reply 8 by Thesimon

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I assume various preparations. Interruptions, restarts. Initial track and click settings. Technical stuff, basically.

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Reply 9 by Piccinesco

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I also think that the cost is truly negligible, if you consider that I had been quoted (in 2009), and they were few nonetheless if you think about it, 500 euros for one or two rehearsals and the recording of a piece for 5 instruments.

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Reply 10 by Frank

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Thank you for the contributions.

It seems like a good idea to me as well, and without exorbitant costs.

I am unclear on how rehearsals are managed in the sense that, since these are unpublished works, I doubt anyone starts with recording.

The questionable sentence, in my opinion, is this:

"this allows you to be able to use a certain orchestra in 30-minute increments"

Using does not imply that the orchestra in those 30 minutes is already ready to record. Or rather, recording yes, but what? It could be the classic Reading Session which might be implied in

"as of today we are making orchestra sessions available to you"

Precisely, sessions of what? Reading and I imagine performance.

Also because if it were mere performance (assuming the study phase is taken for granted), the prices would be truly competitive.

What do you think, is it just my impression?

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Reply 11 by Piccinesco

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Even more so since they include the recording.

Anyway, it seems to me that your doubt has to do with a hypothetical sight-reading performance, am I wrong?

Because in the proposal there is no mention of the time required to master the proposed score at least minimally.

I should preface that I have read nothing other than the uploaded attachment and have not looked further into the website.

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Reply 12 by Frank

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Let's say I don't think it is possible to perform an orchestral piece at first sight; the conductor must study the score, and so must the instrumentalists. Let's say that on average, for composers like Berio, orchestras dedicate a maximum of 6 or 8 hours of ensemble rehearsals (... to an "unknown" less) but the study phase is always necessary.

Therefore, assuming someone wanted to present a piece lasting fifteen minutes... what would they do?

I expect that he/she will share the 90' session with others... you say, of pure performance? So like live, not a studio recording. In the first case, the recording time would correspond to the performance time... in the second case, one would work differently. It is true that they give here a 5 ... 10 minute margin, but it seems like little to me.

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Reply 14 by Piccinesco

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Necessarily (I mean the fact that it is not very clear), if even a minimal study of a score were not contemplated, it would be a sight-reading with results not up to the standard of properly prepared work.

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Reply 15 by Frank

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Shared sessions are designed and oriented for music for images; on average, a 30' session produces a finished recording of about 1' 30'' to 2'' of music

For symphonic music, you need to request a quote, but the target is not shared sessions. Consider that for 15', it's tight within 4 hours... but depending on the score (and the instrumentation), even 6 hours. Let's say I wasn't far off and certainly in this case the necessary time is estimated precisely after viewing the score.

They will surely integrate something on the website to clarify this aspect.

They seemed very professional to me, high-level orchestra .... everything to be agreed upon.

the nice thing is that they also record for small ensembles, clearly the figures and times must be estimated.

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Reply 16 by Piccinesco

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Thanks for the tip, it certainly comes in handy to know that contexts like this exist.

You never know, they might prove useful in the future.

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