Harmony and counterpoint

Solfeggio, ear Training

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While doing sight-singing, I noticed two main 'problems' that I have:

1 when I hear chords, I struggle to recognize the tonic. maybe I recognize the chord but I don't hear the bass note which would be the tonic (I am talking about non-inverted chords)

2 I confuse E with C or vice versa, I find the two chords very similar to my ear!!!

Do you know the software Ear Training? Have you ever used it? results?

Reply 2 by Gennarino

You can try with the site Good Ear (http://www.good-ear.com), which offers the service for free, helping you with your first steps.

Unfortunately, a lot depends on personal characteristics, even if something can be learned through practice, especially if you have some predisposition and just need to evoke it.

The situation is quite complex: briefly, there are people endowed with absolute pitch, i.e., the ability to identify frequency and, therefore, a musical note (its color); other people are endowed with relative pitch, i.e., the ability to identify the ratios between the frequencies of two notes and, therefore, musical intervals (darker, lighter); others have no such ability at all and cannot even say if a note is higher or lower than another (colorblind), others respond well sometimes and poorly other times (uncertain)!

Everyone can perform ear training exercises, but keep in mind that the results depend both on physiological characteristics and psychological characteristics, as well as, as demonstrated by various research, on the age at which the exercise begins; it is indeed proven that children introduced early to music develop absolute pitch because from a young age they call notes by their names and associate their frequency with them. Finally, the ability in question also depends on the timbral richness and variability of the emission and the environment!

Many people claim it is possible to develop absolute pitch starting from ear training; among these, David Burge, who became famous thanks to the course, "Perfect Pitch Ear Training Supercours", which summarizes his research conducted at the Universities where he taught; so go ahead and try, but remember that, to date, there is no certain scientific evidence in favor of the theory.

Hello and good luck with your work

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Reply 3 by Frank

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I believe that a musician needs relative pitch. Absolute pitch is only a facilitation, but without relative pitch, you don't get anywhere ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Reply 5 by Frank

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TheSimon wrote:

I agree, but it is still a nice facilitation. Those who have perfect pitch need less memory...

Sometimes it is also a limitation, see the management of homophonous/analogous sounds and the relationships with various temperaments ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Reply 6 by Frank

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Frank wrote:

Sometimes it is also a limitation, see the management of homophonous/analogous sounds and the relationships with the various temperaments ๐Ÿ˜‰

Obviously I meant temperaments

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But is there no possibility to correct it?

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Reply 8 by pianoexpert

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Bravo FranK. I think just like you. Relative pitch. He is "strong" in this!!!!!!!!!!

Finally someone who differentiates HOMOPHONES AND HOMOLOGUES. In many solfeggio books there is this massive error. C# and Db are HOMOPHONES (naturally in the tempered scale) meaning they HAVE THE SAME SOUND and not HOMOLOGUES, as is sometimes found written.

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Reply 9 by GnazzJazz

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At this moment, the meaning of homophone is clear to me, but I cannot recall that of analogous: perhaps (always within the equal temperament) E in the C scale is analogous to C# in the A scale? That is, two different things have the same characteristics/functions in different situations?

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Reply 10 by Frank

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Homophone (or homophonic) means in unison, homologous means equivalent.

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