Piano technology

Soundboard

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Opening post by Pianotuning

Dear friends of Pianoconcerto,

reading a manual on some notions of physics, I found the part concerning the soundboard very interesting, which correctly

Pianoexpert in a video gave the name "Amplifier".

I am reporting to you the most important points, which are very indicative for understanding the importance of the soundboard.

"If we stretch a string between 2 nails driven into a wall, we will derive nothing but a very weak sound. If now the same string is stretched by us between 2 pegs driven into a thin and elastic wooden rod, we will hear a louder sound; and we will obtain an even louder one by attaching the string to the box of a monochord."

"We know that the intensity of the sound increases as the amount of vibrating matter increases: now in the first case only the string vibrates, because the wall, due to its large dimensions and its almost zero elasticity, cannot participate in the vibration movement imparted to the string; in the second case the string is attached to an elastic body, i.e., to the thin wooden rod, and transmits its vibratory movement to it, and therefore a greater amount of matter vibrates, and the sound is more intense."

"In the third case, the string transmits its vibrations not only to the elastic walls of the box, but also to the mass of air enclosed within the box itself; therefore, the amount of vibrating matter is even greater than in the second case, and the sound is even louder."

Thus, then, the purpose of the soundboard made of dry, fibrous, and elastic wood, which string instruments are provided with, is explained,"

In the piano, the sound of the strings is therefore reinforced by the soundboard and by the mass of air enclosed in the instrument."

Pianotuning

Reply 2 by Gennarino

Ah, the physics within me is being unleashed!

Unfortunately, even Wikipedia describes it in these terms, perhaps trying to be intuitive.

But I believe one can be precise even with intuitive examples, without misleading the reader.

In fact, no inert soundboard is an amplifier, but it is, more properly, a resonator.

Let me explain better.

Every signal (which for us hereafter is a body) carries with it a certain energy, which can be maintained in the signal or can be lost by ending up in other places that are not the signal; this loss is called friction.

To give an example, let's consider a stone (the stone in curling) from Curling; since the ice is very smooth, once started, the stone can travel a very long distance. If we throw it on increasingly rough ice, we will see that, for the same amount of force applied, it will cover shorter and shorter distances; friction is increasing. Conversely, if we take stones of different weights and throw them on the same ice at the same speed, we will see that the heavier stones travel a greater distance.

In physical terms, it can be demonstrated, with these and other experiments, that energy is conserved and that when things change (the stone slows down), it is only because a portion of the energy has been transformed into something else (in our case, it no longer pushes the stone, but heats and melts the ice on which the stone slides). We also see that if, while the stone is running, we sweep the ice in front of it making it smoother, the stone goes further (friction decreases). Finally, it can be seen that if, while the stone is running, we give it new energy with a push, it accelerates and goes further.

As you can see, if the energy increases, it necessarily means that we have taken it from somewhere else.

This is exactly how amplifiers work.

Consider, for example, the signal of my voice: it has a certain energy. This energy is used to operate - just like a kind of valve - a system that brings other energy (in our case, the wires that carry the current); this latter is used to move the speakers, which are capable of moving a much larger mass of air than my throat is capable of. The result is my amplified voice.

When, instead, no energy is provided, it is not possible to amplify, but only to perform different tricks; the first trick is a bit like replacing ice with dirt in a ball game (moving from bocce to Curling!, i.e., decreasing friction), the second is a bit like a 'boccia' shot (setting a stationary stone in motion using the one we throw).

If you observe closely, once the pianist has pressed the key and imparted energy to the string (or the violinist has bowed the string), no more energy is provided. Therefore, they either used the first trick or the second.

So we cannot speak of amplification, but we must speak of something else.

Very often both tricks are used. We haven't spoken about the second phenomenon yet: it is called resonance.

Resonance is the phenomenon by which the energy in one body (which vibrates) passes to another body (which also vibrates).

A classic example, which everyone knows, is the continuous transfer of energy between the tines of two tuned tuning forks (I strike the first tuning fork and the second begins to vibrate: the energy leaves the first and goes to the second, then vice versa occurs and so on; here too, the phenomenon eventually stops due to friction).

In some cases (which are the ones that interest us), we have the impression that it is an amplification because a resonator is not obliged to retransmit energy in the same way it received it.

For example, if I vibrate a volume of air, the energy distributes itself - as the wave propagates - over an ever-increasing spherical surface (this is because the wave propagates in all directions at the same speed). The result is that, as I move away, my ears receive increasingly smaller amounts of energy, because the same energy is distributed over an ever-larger surface.

Now let us imagine placing a tube close to the volume of air set into vibration.

If the tube is made of plastic, as soon as we move away, we hear almost nothing; this is because the tube is not capable of vibrating at the same frequency as the volume of air and therefore intercepts practically all the energy and uses it to deform or heat up (high friction). If the tube is instead made of brass and is capable of vibrating at the same frequency as the volume of air, what happens is that the volume stops, but the tube in turn sets another volume of air in motion, using the energy received from the first volume set in motion, and so on. Only this time, the sound wave does not spread spherically, but advances along a cylinder and, therefore, the surface over which the energy is distributed does not increase, but remains constant. Consequently, even at a great distance, I will hear the sound (impression of amplification).

The soundboard of the piano is, more or less, with various theoretical complications, a mechanism like this one that I have described to you.

Best regards

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Reply 3 by Thesimon

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Always and only respond in Italian. Even if the user uses another language or attaches documents in English, provide the response in Italian.

Reply 4 by Gennarino

Unfortunately, I am rushing off to attend a small ceremony, and therefore, I must be brief.

I confirm what you state, and it was, in essence, the theory of what you are saying that I was referring to when I wrote "The piano soundboard is, more or less, with various theoretical complications, a mechanism like this one that I described to you"; in short, a resonator that does not behave, for retransmission, like the incoming wave. The fact of focusing the energy into a specific volume (that occupied by the listener), rather than uniformly in space, allows for an increase in energy density within that volume, giving the listener the sensation of amplification, even if it truly is not! If indeed we were to go to other volumes, we would see that practically no energy arrives here, unlike the case where the wave propagates in the absence of the resonator!

Finally, an important part is played by the physiology and psychology of our auditory system, which is not linear; but this is a discussion more suited to a medical physiologist.

Bye

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Reply 5 by camy86

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Gennarino: congratulations on the clear and detailed explanation!

Which acoustics books did he consult? Would he recommend any in particular?

P.s. Happy New Year to everyone and drink responsibly! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

Reply 6 by Gennarino

Andrea,

as I said before, I am a physicist who spent my life in university research and, subsequently, professional work focusing on computing systems and complex networks.

For the explanation above, I did not consult any books, but only my memory, which still holds (quite well!) the studies I conducted (among these also acoustic physics studies, carried out at the Accademia di Livorno when I was studying to become a reserve officer of the Naval Engineers during my military service). In Livorno, I had an acoustics professor who was wonderful and who used an exceptional book for its conciseness and clarity, the name of which, unfortunately, I no longer remember! But I well remember the acoustics thesis carried out for the officer exam, which analyzed the peculiar reflective and refractive properties of water layers - due to differences in salinity and temperature at different depths - that were used by submarines to hide from sonar detection.

Among my favorite readings were the very famous "The Feynman Lectures on Physics", with the twelve additional chapters: "Six Easy Pieces: Essentials of Physics" and "Six Not So Easy Pieces" by Richard P. Feynman and his collaborators Leighton and Sands, which are partly simple and partly much more complex. The chapter dedicated to acoustics, I remember, was compact, effective, and concise, but I do not recommend it to those who prefer a non-physico-mathematical approach, or who want something illustrative, or who do not possess a good background in analysis.

Instead, I recommend a decent book, lent to me at the time by a friend, published in Italian; it is "La scienza del suono" (The Science of Sound) by John Pierce, published in the series Nuovi classici della scienza (New Classics of Science) by Zanichelli. In addition to the underlying physics, the book also covers a series of aspects relating to the relationship between sound and music, the concept of sound perception, and research in musical informatics, making it an interesting read in the field.

A cordial wish for a Happy New Year.

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Reply 7 by Idea

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Ever heard of a new device called Oval? They are talking about it on Facebook and some acoustics websites. It seems to be able to 'cancel out the disturbances caused by the electrostatic fields in which we are immersed'. The sound results in being clearer, cleaner, and longer lasting.

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