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The Great Beauty

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The film has been released, won the Oscar, and was broadcast free-to-air in prime time last night on Canale 5.

Opinions, both positive and negative, are being wasted all over the web. I liked the film very much, and I have always liked the soundtrack very much, which is made entirely of non-original tracks, meaning compositions not explicitly composed for the film.

At this link you can find the "track list" of the soundtrack

http://www.soundsblog.it/post/255669/la-grande-bellezza-colonna-sonora-e-canzoni-del-film-vincitore-del-premio-oscar-2014

i will upload the YouTube videos of some of the most significant pieces for you

"I lie" by David Lang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO8DqDWBzLI

"World to Come IV" by David Lang

"My Heart's in the Highland" by Arvo Paart

"The Lamb" by John Tavener

Third movement from Henryk Gorecki's Third Symphony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-spvWyoVc

"Far l'amore" by Bob Sinclar feat. Raffaella Carrà

http://www.soundsblog.it/post/255669/la-grande-bellezza-colonna-sonora-e-canzoni-del-film-vincitore-del-premio-oscar-2014

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Reply 2 by Videoclip

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thallo wrote:

I liked the film very much, and I have always liked the soundtrack very much, made entirely of non-original tracks, i.e., compositions not explicitly composed for the film.

I agree!

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Reply 3 by thallo

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moreover, I am firmly convinced that the pieces chosen for the soundtrack speak volumes about the aesthetic idea of the film itself. Not by chance they are mostly "post-minimalist" tracks, repetitive, circular...

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Reply 4 by CromaDiBrera

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I would like to discuss it, but unfortunately I have only seen the second part of the film; in any case, I am truly disheartened by the comments I read on Fb. The film has been seen by over eight million people, but the majority find it "neither here nor there". I presume they would think the same watching Fellini.

In any case, from the little I have seen, the aesthetic level is amazing.

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Reply 5 by thallo

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On the first viewing I cried a little, on the second I cried a lot :-) and I experienced it precisely like a film "against" strong narratives, ideological and artistic epics. It is a theme that touches me deeply, because I do not believe in the epic; I am more a man of resignation, of noting the disaster. And Sorrentino, in my opinion, narrates a beautiful disaster, a quagmire of beauty, of enjoyment from which it is impossible to emerge except by living moments of surfacing, of next-level beauty, which in the case of Jep Gambardella is the memory of roots and the beginning of a new novel.

Watching the film, I thought of an MTV "clip" that I think captures the idea of "camp" very well: golden skulls covered in melted chocolate :-) camp is that kind of artistic current, or aesthetic ideal, that takes the idea of beauty without function to the extreme. Practically, it is a kitsch that knows it is kitsch and marches on the limit between very ugly and very beautiful. To make ourselves understood, Platinette is camp. And because she draws inspiration from "Divine," a famous chubby and fetishistic drag queen who became the muse of John Waters, the director of "Hairspray." The "plasticized" aesthetic of the '50s, that of housewives with teased hair, bright-colored clothes, shiny surfaces, is camp. In reality, all pop aesthetics are camp when they try to be extremely beautiful. Thus, The Great Beauty, in my opinion, adopts a camp aesthetic to describe a world in which art is forced to be super-extremely-beautiful, so super-extremely-beautiful that it makes no sense. Art, parties, clothes, social occasions, are all aestheticized to the limit. But this life, which should be wonderful, is actually empty of meaning, and everyone is looking—more or less—for something more.

The thing that I think disturbed many is that in recent years we have become convinced that rigidity must be opposed to excess. Most of my friends who hated the film feel within themselves the failure of the leftist intellectual, of the girl who in the film would want to be so pure as to oppose civil struggle against senseless beauty. But it is a failure, just as it is a failure for the boy who reads Proust and Turgenev and commits suicide. It is also a failure for Romano (Verdone) who returns to Nepi because Rome disappointed him. The only truly pure character, the Saint, is ridiculous and completely unapproachable, because poverty is lived, not recounted! I liked her immensely as a character, and many of my friends didn't even understand her. If you have ever seen Pirandello's "If It Is So (You Call It) Real," you understood the Saint :-) she is the truth, she is the final enigmatic deus ex machina. Which, I repeat, is so pure as to be incomprehensible, and anyway ridiculous or, using a Pirandellian term, grotesque. We are terrified by her purity.

In all this bogged-down beauty, there are moments of surfacing. These are the dawns and the monuments of Rome, above all, the situations in which Jep cries, the memories of lost love. This is beauty that resists, locked away in the palaces of princesses or in our memories. Or, as in the case of the poor Colonna di Reggio, simultaneously locked away in the palace and in their memories. The scene of the old woman looking at her cradle is tremendous...

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Reply 6 by micamahler

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Mediaset tried it by putting him on Canale 5! Being used to Gabriel Garko and Manuela Arcuri, they must have been lost....

Compliments to Sorrentino and all those who worked with him, especially (for me) Luca Bigazzi, the director of photography.

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Reply 8 by CromaDiBrera

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The pieces are beautiful; I was also very struck by them while watching the film (but I always pay a lot of attention to soundtracks). Among other things, I didn't know David Lang. Part's piece, then, is one of my favorites, also because of the use of these organ timbres.

Overall, I think the idea of using non-original pieces was absolutely winning, because no composer could have built this contrast of effects (or of "affetti," to put it in the old way).

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Reply 10 by thallo

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I didn't even know Lang, but the piece in Yiddish is really cool, very impactful.

I am currently singing Tavener's "The Lamb" with my choir; we are preparing it for a competition in London, and I really like this idea of "English" choral music, which takes a step further than Part (or a step in a different direction) in the sense that, besides the steady vocals and clean harmonies even when they are dissonant, there is a short, simple, classical form

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Reply 11 by CromaDiBrera

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Could you perhaps post the score, or maybe provide me with a link? It would be very instructive for me to look it over carefully.

P.S. After reading your long post above, I had to go to work and have only just returned. I've been turning the many considerations you wrote over in my mind all day, and I am still "digesting" them. It is clear for this reason as well that it is a masterpiece: one discusses it and feels (if one is even slightly intelligent and sensitive) that one would never stop doing so. I was very biased, but it is a great film and I can't wait to watch it again in its entirety.

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