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Theories On 432 Hz Music

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I don't know anything about it, but do these theories seem true to you? And if playing at 432 Hz is truly beneficial, can one change the tuning of their own piano? I invite you to watch the following video and read the following explanations, which are not my words but those of the person who uploaded the video.

is it possible to disharmonize society, putting human consciousness to sleep, by using sound as a natural tool?

Since 1939, when the Masons (including Wagner and Russian and Austrian military bands) decided to use 441 Hz as the standard frequency for sound, society has undergone serious upheavals in its entirety.

The 441 Hz frequency, used by radio, CDs, mass media, and television, is highly harmful to our brain and our well-being: this type of disharmonious vibration acts as a carrier of stress, anxiety, and various types of pathologies.

On the contrary, the 432 Hz frequency, used by the greatest composers such as Giuseppe Verdi, Mozart, Beethoven, and Pink Floyd, proves to be much more pleasant and touches the sensitive points of our brain with greater precision compared to the now universal tuning fork at 440-441 Hz. In fact, it acts as a relaxing, calming, meditative, anti-stress agent, as well as a deterrent for the various pathologies that affect our body (due, as is not unknown, to a perception of negative frequencies).

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Reply 2 by thallo

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but where did you find this thing?? ahahah

it seems that Bach's organs in Leipzig, Weimar and Hamburg had an A at 480 hz... anyway, tuning the A to 440 means absolutely nothing, it has no connection whatsoever with health, there are no tunings better than others, there aren't even standard tunings, in reality, considering the extreme "volatility" of the intonation of instruments and ensembles.

In a simple sentence: it is nonsense

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Reply 3 by Zedef

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My relaxing, calming, meditative, anti-stress agent, as well as a deterrent for the various pathologies affecting my body (due, as I was not aware, to a perception of negative frequencies) is listening to Bach at 415 Hz.

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Reply 4 by thallo

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Zedef wrote:

My relaxing, calming, meditative, anti-stress agent as well as a deterrent for the various pathologies affecting my body (due, as I was not aware, to a perception of negative frequencies) is listening to Bach at 415 Hz.

which then, for those who didn't know, is also possible on instruments tuned to 440, simply by playing a half step lower...

but it's true, A at 415 would solve many problems, especially for singers

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Reply 5 by Zedef

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Not infrequently I hear orchestras and choirs performing Handel at 440/442: shrieks.. who knows what pitch the good G.F. used (+- 392)

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Reply 6 by thallo

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in the theater I have always heard the issue of the tuning fork used as a justification for singing out of tune; I did a Zauberfloete with my choir and the Queen of the Night, who deserved nothing but compassion, often said that in Mozart's time those Fs were actually Es... too bad she sang everything else out of tune...

it would be very interesting to examine middle tessituras instead, where a half-tone really makes a difference... if I think specifically of Bach, for example, and the natural B-naturals he makes his tenors blast out, or the profusion of F-sharps, a terrible note for lyric voices... singing it with a lower tuning fork would greatly change our idea of the Bachian voice. Same thing for Handel, who is not high-pitched by nature, and who would probably also suit heavy voices, albeit agile ones.

Thus, the discussion about tuning forks can be fruitfully included in a discussion on the history of vocalism. With the necessary specifics, of course

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Reply 7 by Gianfranc0

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Well... well... thank goodness... it makes me happy to hear you talking, or rather write, like this: I wrote it at the beginning, I am an amateur, and I don't understand these things at all. A friend of mine, who has a son studying the violin, and who knows that I am not in good health (I am, in fact, seriously ill with cancer), to help me heal through music, she who knows that I study the piano, sent me the video of Pachelbel's piece played at 432 Hz. Personally, I prefer this other performance of Pachelbel, but please don't tell my friend

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Reply 8 by thallo

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Let's make a few things clear, however...

there are branches of music therapy that are based on scientific or experimental evidence. The point is that music therapy models are generally different from traditional Western medicine models; that is, they do not cure the disease, but at most alleviate symptoms, or provide relief to the patient, or, in the case of pathologies or discomfort of a psychological or psychiatric nature, provide cutting-edge tools to help the patient learn new methods of communication, expression, and processing.

Anyway, it's complex...

but this means that if you turn to a serious facility, you might find music therapists capable of helping you. Obviously, in your case, these would not be therapies specifically aimed at curing the pathology; music does not act on cancer any more than it acts on a cold. But feeling well and healing are different things. Music acts on you and improves your quality of life, regardless of the pathologies you may suffer from.

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Reply 9 by Carlos

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The tuning fork matter is a complete hoax, excuse me for saying so. I have spoken with many organists dedicated to the study of performance practice who told me that, especially for sacred music, which was therefore played in church with the aid of the organ, there was no (there could not exist!) uniform tuning fork, simply because depending on the climate, the organ would go flat or sharp. Furthermore, until the end of the 1800s, the tuning fork was not standardized (to 435), so it would be appropriate to downsize the claim that "Bach is listened to at 415" because it is probably not true. According to more or less documented sources, at the beginning of the 1700s in a German church, a tuning fork around 500 Hz was recorded, and there exists a "Venetian tuning" that goes from 440 to 460 (and people still complain when they hear The Four Seasons with the tuning at 442, just imagine...)

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Reply 10 by Gianfranc0

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thallo wrote:

Let's make a few things clear, however...

there are branches of music therapy that are based on scientific or experimental evidence. The point is that music therapy models are generally different from traditional Western medicine models, meaning they do not cure the disease, but at most alleviate symptoms, or provide relief to the patient or, in the case of pathologies or distress of a psychological or psychiatric nature, provide cutting-edge tools to help the patient learn new methods of communication, expression, and processing.

Anyway, it's complex...

but this means that if you turn to a serious facility, you might find music therapists capable of helping you. Obviously, in your case, these would not be therapies specifically aimed at curing the pathology; music does not act on cancer any more than it acts on a cold. But feeling well and healing are different things. Music acts on you and improves your quality of life, regardless of the pathologies you may suffer from.

Cancer is a terrible disease, I know something about it since unfortunately I have it, with metastases in several parts of the body, especially in the bones. These are diseases that cannot even be cured with chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Years ago, a 35-year-old friend of mine discovered she had uterine carcinoma; she went to Milan hoping they could save her there, but instead, she died after three months. Also, the niece of a colleague of mine was diagnosed with a brain tumor at age 16. Hospitalized several times in Rome, surgery and chemotherapy, she died after one year, at only 17 years old. If only music could cure such a terrible disease by changing the tuning of one's own piano! That would be too beautiful and too easy; it would be better then to rely on prayers, in fact, no other solutions exist.

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