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third and fourth finger

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I noticed Yuja Wang's hands and it seems that between the third and fourth finger she has no ligament difficulties....

is it possible to achieve such fluidity or are they natural talents?

If there is a method, what exercises should be done to properly loosen the third from the fourth finger?

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Reply 2 by Frank

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Mozart and Liszt can help (I mean pure technique). To be practiced under the supervision of a good teacher.

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Reply 4 by Frank

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You can also find Liszt's on IMSLP (Petrucci), for example

http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/b/b0/IMSLP241441-SIBLEY1802.15727.7399-39087009941412vol._1.pdf

in any case

http://imslp.org/wiki/Technische_Studien,_S.146_(Liszt,_Franz)

I think the printed version is also available.

You can find Mozzati here

http://www.di-arezzo.it/partiture/didattica-strumentale/partiture-per-pianoforte/Alberto-Mozzati/Esercizi-di-Tecnica-Pianistica/RICMI02279.html

The fundamental thing, I reiterate, is that you have someone who knows these methods well guide you and follow you constantly through the exercises... if done incorrectly, they create major problems. I think Liszt is not suitable for budding students.

http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/b/b0/IMSLP241441-SIBLEY1802.15727.7399-39087009941412vol._1.pdfhttp://imslp.org/wiki/Technische_Studien,_S.146_(Liszt,_Franz)http://www.di-arezzo.it/partiture/didattica-strumentale/partiture-per-pianoforte/Alberto-Mozzati/Esercizi-di-Tecnica-Pianistica/RICMI02279.html

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Reply 5 by ga3tan0

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Always and only respond in Italian. Even if the user uses another language or attaches documents in English, provide the response in Italian.

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Reply 9 by ttw

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They have always cost a lot, anyway I think it is physiological, it is a law of the market. Fewer copies sold, higher the price.

I wonder why an artist should share their results, fruits of a lifetime of research. I mean, one publishes a text and it changes nothing in their life... neither for the worse, nor for the better. Ergo, why do it?

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Reply 10 by Thesimon

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ttw wrote:

They have always cost a lot, anyway I think it is physiological, it is a law of the market. Fewer copies sold, higher the price.

I wonder why an artist should share their results, fruits of a lifetime of research. I mean, that one publishes a text and it changes nothing in their life... neither for the worse, nor for the better. Ergo, why do it?

I don't think I understood your point of view...

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Reply 11 by ttw

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Before, to have the lyrics you had to buy them; now you can download them for free. Therefore, if a publisher used to sell 100,000 copies a year and could afford a certain price... now that they sell 100 a year, they must inevitably set another one.

From the artist's point of view, since publishing yields nothing (if it's not clear, I mean in terms of royalties... i.e., SILDI), why decide to publish the result of one's work? If I am going to earn 0... I will inevitably keep my work in a drawer and give it to whomever I want. I don't need a publisher to give something away

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Reply 12 by Thesimon

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I agree, obviously limited to the discussion related to music.

In any case, certain things are not done solely for remunerative purposes but also and perhaps, in this context, especially for image return.

The more things an author manages to publish, the more their public fame and demand increase. It is essentially work that brings work.

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Reply 13 by ttw

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TheSimon wrote:

in essence a job that brings work.

...if both are not remunerated, it is not work but slavery.

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TheSimon wrote:

The more things an author manages to publish, the more their public fame and demand increase

...if anything, in this period: the MORE you do NOT get paid, the greater the requests that will come to you.

I'll go back to the beginning, why should I bother?

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Reply 14 by ga3tan0

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ttw wrote:

...if both are not remunerated, it is not work but slavery.

And in particular

...at most in this period: the LESS you will be paid, the greater the requests that will come to you.

I'll go back to the beginning, why would they do it?

Let's say that the author is very rich and does not need money, why would they do it?

fame!

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Reply 15 by Thesimon

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I would shift the point of view regarding expectations.

Those who take the perspective of creating good work do so not only for personal enrichment, but also to earn fame and perhaps monetize.

The TTW vision is a bit pessimistic because it puts the idea of failure ahead of everything else, even before trying.

My outlook is a bit more positive... For now, I'll try, then I will try to gather whatever little I have sown, if anything.

Certainly, if you don't even try, you cannot expect good things to fall from the sky; it's a bit like the argument of someone who complains about never having won the lottery without ever having bought a ticket.

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Reply 16 by ttw

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..maybe one becomes pessimistic because they have tried repeatedly and, rather than job requests, they received unpaid work or work paid less than a housekeeper ...

Of course, if someone has another job and is well-fed, they cannot deeply understand someone with an empty stomach and a job that doesn't pay... good luck publishing. Will I become rich on 150 euros of royalties per year per book? I would like to make people reflect that to make 1,500 a month I would have to write 120 books a year... does anyone have an idea what that means? Otherwise, we are talking about the sex of angels.

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Reply 17 by Thesimon

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Ok, so how are you going to resolve this? Not writing anymore? Staying at the mercy of the waves without even swimming to find a rock?

Saying that someone writes a book and it doesn't sell is more or less like opening an e-commerce site and waiting for buyers to find you through a divine miracle. You open a site and nobody knows about it. Everyone is convinced that just opening a site is enough to receive millions of visits a day simply because we have inserted high-quality content, much like a scholar who writes a book and expects it to sell on its own. Do you have any idea how much advertising goes into selling a best-seller? Do you have any idea how many books better than best-sellers are out there? Thousands!!

A book doesn't become a best-seller just because it is well-written; there are hundreds of thousands of well-written books and high-quality content, it becomes a best-seller because a lot is invested in advertising. If it is also well-written, compelling, or explains difficult concepts with simple vocabulary accessible to everyone, that certainly helps word of mouth. But you cannot think about writing something and making money if nobody knows about it. It is exactly like a beautiful island lost in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and invisible even to satellites. Who goes there?

First of all, explain to me what kind of book it is, what it's about, what you want to convey, who it should reach... Then market research is done to understand if there is a more or less broad audience interested in the subject. Give it a cover with an attractive graphic design; maybe it won't sell millions of copies, but it certainly won't be a work wasted for 150 euros a year in publishing royalties.

Today more than ever, advertising has become fundamental for two reasons. The first is that we are completely submerged in products; whatever problem I have, there is already a product that solves it 99% of the time, so it is already difficult in itself to find a unique and marketable idea for economic conversion; if someone does find one, it's the lost island in the ocean without the proper advertising being done.

The second reason is that we are completely and totally continuously bombarded with advertising everywhere, but today the scales are starting to tip towards the web. Did you know, for example, that YouTube is the seventh most-watched channel in Italy after the main national networks? Exactly, it comes after Rete 4. Did you know that 26 million people in Italy (which is almost half of the Italian population) use Facebook and that the numbers are continuously increasing?

Did you know instead that while on television advertisements target all viewers indiscriminately regardless of age, sex, interests, etc., on Facebook you can show your book only and uniquely to users potentially interested in a purchase at relatively low costs?

The heart of the matter is advertising.

Perhaps in the near future I will have to take over the digital marketing for a small theater with 100 seats. It's a challenge to popularize it because it's a dying sector; currently, they tell me it is almost always empty. We will see the results in light of Facebook and Adwords campaigns. In any case, think about it...

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Reply 18 by Thesimon

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ttw wrote:

Of course, someone who has another profession and a full stomach cannot deeply understand someone with an empty stomach and a job that doesn't pay.

I am commenting on this separately on purpose... If this sentence refers to me, I would like to explain myself. You should know that until the age of 25/26, I wanted to be a professional pianist and, at the same time, I was also doing a specialization at university to keep a lifeline in case my first and ambitious choice did not succeed.

Perhaps I didn't commit as I should have, or perhaps I misunderstood the system, or I didn't believe in it until the end, or maybe I wasn't as talented as I thought I was; but even I was, and still am today, called for concerts only when they are for charity or otherwise to play free of charge. A bit of "image"—it would be an exaggeration to call it "fame"—I achieved it this way: at many masterclasses, people unknown to me recognized me; they would come up to compliment me, sometimes for a recording, sometimes for the pianoconcerto website. I have always performed in public with great humility and happiness because, regardless, I have always loved the concert experience. Am I an histrionic type? Eccentric? Perhaps, but I feel that every time I give a concert, despite the pre-stage anxiety and the racing heartbeat, it is an experience that allows me to communicate with others, to give a reading of my pianistic intentions to those who come to listen to me, and it is certainly a moment of great growth because it places me before challenges with myself (stress management, fallibility, memory, etc...).

As age kept advancing, I had to redirect myself and dedicate myself to something else because I couldn't continue giving free concerts on my parents' shoulders. My degree certainly helped me a lot, and today I can say that I have a job that I like and is well-paid, although, as I repeat, it is always a second choice, and I say this with a bit of bitterness in my mouth. I would have wanted to work in the field of music with all my heart, even simply being a teacher in a conservatory or a music school or academy, or perhaps working in a recording studio, just to be able to work in the world of music. As you say, in Italy, our sector is constantly being pushed further and further into oblivion. This does not change the fact that even today, despite the vicissitudes, I continue to work in the field of music; for me it is a passion, and I can very well understand your state of mind. However, I do not understand your white flag. By waving a white flag, what do you think you will achieve? I believe that a little is always better than nothing. Then perhaps I will try to find out how to better monetize the fruit of my work, but by waving a white flag, where do you think you will get to?

To continue having to do with the world of music, I invent everything. The latest is the project ingegneriadelsuono.com, where I have already collected several jobs, some even quite important... Of course, it is a great sacrifice because after a day in the office writing code, fighting with databases, managing advertising campaigns, it is tiring to come home and go down to the studio, turn on another PC, and do more work, but at the same time it is rewarding because you notice with pleasure that a project you have invested so much in, which falls within your passions, is working and is bearing fruit. If you don't find the right way, you have to start looking. By giving everything up, what do you expect will happen? That magically someone will notice you?

I spent 30 years of my life living in pessimism, then I stopped and understood one thing... With pessimism, you will never get anywhere because it takes away your energy, demoralizes you, does not allow you to think or move, and above all, it does not give you a way to take the next step. From there, I began to think positively, to believe in my ideas, to dedicate the right energies to them, and my life has completely changed for the better. You cannot imagine what you can gain from positivity. If you face problems with positivity, you can only find solutions. If you face them with negativity, everything will seem like an insurmountable wall.

I think that if you are aware of having created a good product, you only need to find the way to make it known, and experience teaches me that if a product is qualitatively high and unique in its kind, it will find its success.

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