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good morning everyone, I am writing to you because unfortunately my Yamaha PT100 mechanical tuner has abandoned me. I wanted to ask you for advice on purchasing a new tuner. I saw that TLA has made a tuner that calculates not only the temperament but also the inharmonicity of the piano, like the Yamaha PT100, but I have seen that software now exists… from what I understand, however, these software programs do not "tune" in real time but require an initial note-by-note recording. In my opinion, this is something very impractical, not to mention that I don't understand what it could be useful for, especially when the piano is significantly out of tune and in an irregular manner. I am therefore asking if there is a software that can work in real time without this initial recording. thank you

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Reply 2 by Thesimon

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Hi, as far as I know, there aren't any. Somehow they must have a reference. Also because inharmonicity varies from instrument to instrument, even within the same brand and model. I wonder how the other tuners you mention calculate total inharmonicity without doing an a priori calculation.

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Reply 3 by maestro

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thesimon wrote:

On ‎26‎/‎01‎/‎2019 at 22:01, thesimon said:

Hi, as far as I know there aren't any. Somehow they must have a reference. Also because inharmonicity varies from instrument to instrument, even within the same brand and model. I wonder how the other tuners you mention manage to calculate total inharmonicity without making an a priori calculation.

i have always used the yamaha pt100 which does not require any reference as it allows determining inharmonicity by selecting the length or height of the piano, and in 20 years of tuning i have always had excellent results. i have heard from both the official yamaha tuner and Fazioli, and both told me that there is now a software that works identically to the pt100 called yamaha pt-a1, so no reference recording. the only little problem is that the application is for ios system only and it costs a whopping 700 euros, and we are talking about an application of only 12 mb! practically a theft that i would not want to have to endure

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Reply 4 by Thesimon

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I might even believe it in the middle octave, but not at the top or bottom. Listen to an instrument tuned by ear by a good technician and you will hear the difference.

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Reply 5 by 0day

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There is Pianometer which calculates inharmonicity almost in real time, just leave it listening and play a few notes; even Tune!it indicates harmonics and inharmonicity, among other things it also accepts stretching. On the tune-it website, you can download a tuning file partially created by me that works well; with the necessary precautions, it must always be rechecked by ear, as with any other tuner.

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