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Xenakis: Rebonds

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Reply 21 by scelsi

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ttw wrote:

In fact, I invited you to let me read where it says otherwise; I am very willing to change my mind. As long as Xenakis says he went by ear for Herma, then we will also understand what kind of musicality he has... no one in the Herma topic has written that they like it. Not even you, Scelsi

it is not a piece that I listen to passionately, unlike many of his others, but I understand the historical reasons that led to the composition of this type of music by him and many others! and I do not consider this result banal, obvious, or easy. even in light of the fact that it has been surpassed!

but this does not mean that I agree with the arguments you are making!

in various interviews, Xen declares that beyond the stochastically constructed parameters, there are others left to "feeling."

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Reply 22 by ttw

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scelsi wrote:

I do not consider this result to be banal, obvious, or easy.

In fact, he must have certainly worked hard to achieve this result, I have no doubt about that. But it is not the amount of work being discussed and, in effect:

scelsi wrote:

I understand the historical reasons that led him and many others to compose this type of music!

But then again, every piece must be evaluated in a historical and aesthetic context, so today Beethoven is not outdated (despite "I understand the historical reasons that led him and many others to compose this type of music!"... I am always talking about Beethoven and others)... as you say, Xenakis's Herma, yes. Everyone "understands" it, perhaps they "sympathize with it" because of the work he put into it (I am still talking about Herma, eh!), but no one wants to listen to it... which is the only thing that matters in music... the use of the ears

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Reply 26 by Frank

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Belli carichi oggi ragazzi

Un suggerimento da forumista comune, sarebbe carino parlare di Herma nell'apposito topic e di Rebonds in questo

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Reply 27 by micamahler

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Those are improvisations; as far as Messiaen's compositional method is concerned, I would rather refer to his "Technique of my musical language"

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