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Guys!!! do you really think you can achieve something with these tracks? they don't create the right atmosphere.... I suggest this track
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But where do we put Liszt's Liebestraum?
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No no, in my opinion we're not there yet.... beautiful pieces, for sure! But for the objective, we need fuller and more overwhelming sounds... the floor must vibrate and there must be a touch of gothic feeling that wouldn't hurt.... beautiful and dark... no?!
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nancy wrote:No no, in my opinion we're not there yet.... nice pieces, for sure! But for the objective, we need fuller and more overwhelming sounds... the floor must vibrate and there must be a touch of gothic feeling that wouldn't hurt.... beautiful and dark... no?!
I agree with Nancy.
We must let the storm break loose, "plunge" into the underworld in order to ascend to the paradise of love.
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hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this post had completely escaped me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i can't believe it..... i hope to bring it back to a minimum level of decency and maybe Viola can help me (i don't know, maybe?!?!).... the only other woman among men )
dear nancy
this post is not indecent. Although I too (in my post on February 16th) spoke of 'conquering', I see nothing insane in someone who only intends to 'flirt'. And then, as they say, one thing leads to another... what they think they are flirting with remains conquered, etc. etc..
Anyway, aside from this aspect, regarding which I have my opinion and everyone will have theirs, I like this discussion because, reading the latest posts (so dark, a touch of gothic sense, plunging into hell, ascending to paradise...) it feels like reading the "application procedure" of the other recent discussion: 'What is the purpose of music today?'
Here is what music is for today!
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Unfortunately, Liszt's 'Liebestraum' in the common imagination is too closely linked to a well-known advertisement from the '80s.
If you want to flirt with/conquer a gentle lady with an environmentalist soul... you've lost before you even started
(well... but perhaps someone born after 1990 doesn't remember it, so bring on Liebestraum...)
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LucaCavaliere wrote:dear nancy
this post is not indecent. Although I too (in my post of February 16th) spoke of 'conquering', I see nothing insane in someone who only intends to 'flirt'. And then, as they say, one thing leads to another... what they think they are flirting with remains conquered, etc. etc..
Anyway, aside from this aspect, regarding which I have my opinion and everyone will have theirs, I like this discussion because, reading the latest posts (so dark, a touch of Gothic sense, plunging into hell, ascending to paradise...) it feels like reading the "application procedure" of the other recent discussion: 'What is the purpose of music today?'
Here is what music is for today!
@ Simon
Unfortunately, Liszt's 'Liebestraum' in the common imagination is too closely linked to a well-known advertisement from the '80s.
If you want to flirt with/conquer a gentle lady with an environmentalist soul... you've lost before you even started
(well... but perhaps someone born after 1990 doesn't remember it, so bring on Liebestraum...)
You are quite a character ...
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A Nancy:
https://youtu.be/pPTe1xMB9Uk
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Viola wrote:I agree with Nancy.
One must let the storm rage, "plunge" into the underworld in order to ascend to the paradise of love.
nancy wrote:No no, in my opinion we're not there yet.... great tracks, for sure! But for the objective, we need fuller and more overwhelming sounds... the floor must vibrate and there must be a touch of gothic sense that wouldn't hurt.... beautiful and dark... no?!
Girls, here we are bordering on Satanism. We little boys want to act like big romantics, convinced that you like it, but instead you propose an initiation rite of the type "DO IT STRANGELY". The truth is that you are never direct, never once do you take the initiative. Please let us understand what you want right away so we can avoid taking strange turns to win you over; you'll see that then we will adapt ourselves immediately to the new situation.
P.s A big hug to both of you, here we are joking naturally :D .Ciao Viola, it's a pleasure to meet you
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LucaCavaliere wrote:dear nancy
this post is not indecent. Although I too (in my post of February 16th) spoke of 'conquering', I see nothing insane in someone who only intends to 'flirt'. And then, as they say, one thing leads to another... what they think they are flirting with remains conquered, etc. etc..
Anyway, aside from this aspect, regarding which I have my opinion and everyone will have theirs, I like this discussion because, reading the latest posts (so dark, a touch of Gothic sense, plunging into hell, ascending to paradise...) it feels like reading the "application procedure" of the other recent discussion: 'What is the purpose of music today?'
Here is what music is for today!
@ Simon
Unfortunately, Liszt's 'Liebestraum' in the common imagination is too closely linked to a well-known advertisement from the '80s.
If you want to flirt with/conquer a gentle lady with an environmentalist soul... you've lost from the start
(well... but perhaps someone born after 1990 doesn't remember it, so welcome Liebestraum...)
but surely "indecent" was a joking definition of your intentions!!!!
anyway, it is true that the discussion has common traits with the one on the "function of music today," although it is much lighter and is interesting in any case. Two different visions of male and female universes emerge, which are reflected in what would be considered music suitable for creating atmosphere, as well as showing how there are misunderstood and unexpressed expectations between the two.
in my opinion too, Scriabin comes closer to female expectations, especially with that รฉtude. He expresses grandeur and strength with the right note of melancholy, and it is known that a man capable of feeling and expressing these sentiments cannot help but be liked!
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consider that if we were to say clearly what we would want, you would tell us that we are not interesting enough and then where would natural selection lie in the conquest process....the most witty win...the others are left behind....
abbraccio ricambiato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It is the second time I am participating in a forum and, compared to the first one,
here the atmosphere is much more cordial.
Culture without sensitivity is little better than idiocy, and a truly cultured person is someone who, in addition to knowing, "feels."
Everyone does what they can, and I hope that my small contribution can be of benefit to the forum.
A special thanks to Simone.
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Dear Giovanni and Luca,
it would be reasonable to let the subject drop, because otherwise one risks turning the forum into a brothel. :-)
Women are complicated creatures; trying to understand them is a vain endeavor; it is wise to abandon any attempt from the start.
Just limit yourselves to enjoying their company, which is rich in benefits (and malefices).
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Dear Viola, as I have already said, I was only joking; personally, I love you women exactly as you are... without reservations.
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nancy wrote:but surely "indecent" was a joking definition of your intentions!!!!
Ahh .. sorry. Ok
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Viola wrote:Women are complicated creatures, trying to understand them is a vain endeavor; it is wise to abandon any attempt from the start.
Limit yourselves to enjoying their company, rich in benefits (and malefices).
I agree that they are complicated. And I would add: each one complicated in her own way.
It is very likely a vain endeavor to try to understand a woman. But as I am made, it is an endeavor that I do not mind.
Just like with a great musical Work: it takes hold of me, I strive to understand it, I think I understand it, but that music is always a little beyond my presumption of having understood it.
PS in another post above I had said that a musical piece is helpless in the face of the listener's intentions. And you had said that instead, often it is the music that dominates you.
Now, since we have moved on to the subject of 'understanding', I would like to add that certain musical pieces understand me better than I understand them.
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LucaCavaliere wrote:This is what music is for today!
...I knew it would come up
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Regarding the latest comments, I remember that a woman in another recent topic stated that music today serves to:
Viola wrote:To create an indissoluble bond with another being.
... for me, it can also be a duo that transforms into a couple. How many people have not fallen in love with another person while listening to a song?
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Frank wrote:Regarding the latest comments, I remember that a woman in another recent topic stated that music today serves to:
She did not specify the gender, so for me it could also be a duo that turns into a couple. How many have not fallen in love with another person while listening to a song?
Friendship precedes love not only in alphabetical order.
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A musical dedication is a very intimate gesture.
Sometimes one confesses through music what one is too shy to confess in words.
It is a precious gift.
(as far as I am concerned, it is the most precious gift).
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Frank wrote:Regarding the latest comments, I remember that a woman in another recent topic stated that music today serves to:
... for me it can also be a duo that transforms into a couple. How many people have not fallen in love with another person while listening to a song?
Yes Frank. That can also happen.
I also agree with Viola regarding the statement about the indissoluble bond.
Only that - perhaps I misunderstood - I feel the indissoluble bond with the other being between composer > < listener.
Effectively, if I look back at myself, if I look around me (not too far back and not too far away), my bond with Beethoven is probably the most indissoluble one I have.
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Viola wrote:Friendship precedes love not only in alphabetical order.
attraction instead comes third . . . . . ( only in alphabetical order )