Bahrami's "Bach" ... All the Infidel

zadra wrote:

but maybe the best ones, better than him, are making a mistake in strategy, no?

There is the remote hypothesis that perhaps these (un)fortunates are not well-connected or are not much bootlickers... on the transport, they are in complete agreement.

@Foster

Let's not talk about football; there are things that my brain simply refuses to understand or that it sees so clearly that it doesn't understand how others can fall for them hook, line, and sinker. For example, I don't understand why more and more people, who might be unemployed, manage to find 500 euros to pay for an annual stadium subscription to watch 11 overpaid puppets running after a ball, trampling each other like grapes for a team, taking to the streets for a fan card but not taking to the streets because they can't find work... I also don't understand what these players have invented to earn 5 million euros a year. I say this while knowing well a Serie A player who also played as a starter in the last World Cup. Knowing him, on one hand, I am happy for him because I am glad he has settled himself; on the other hand, I don't understand what he does more than me to earn all this money (it's not envy towards him, I repeat, it's more anger towards the system).

@micamahler

07:20 - 07:50 of the video on Gould... Returning to my previous post in which I complained about Bahrami's technique, I would be very curious to hear him play this passage. Note how the great Gould does not let the transition from the right hand to the left and vice versa be felt at all; his hands are technically equivalent and the voices are all clear and clean. Superb Gould, a beautiful Bachian touch!!

You can perceive a breathtaking interpretation when the listening is poetic. Here Bahrami, in my opinion, not only fails to reach this poetry but actually has a series of other factors to fix, starting from technical difficulties that should be the ABCs for pianists of a certain level...

@Zadra

Dear Zadra, I really think your husband is absolutely right, but Fantasy's common sense also seems right to me.

Knowing how to market oneself is fine, but if someone is an imbecile, they are an imbecile, and anyway it always takes a great deal of luck because believe me when I tell you that the circle of notoriety in this field is very, very narrow! Then, well, there are also some jobs where imbeciles are sought after—namely those who are put there and are paid handsomely to do what they are told; people without morals, without ethics, without love for their own country and without intelligence, the classic money-mad people.

I'll tell you, it wasn't clear at all that Fantasy was being sarcastic.

In any case, I know it takes luck... And perhaps a good manager to lend a hand wouldn't hurt.

Tiger wrote:

There is the remote hypothesis that maybe these lucky (or unlucky) people are not well-connected or are not much of a bootlicker...

In Italy, perhaps. But, no offense, even complaining that others are well-connected and/or bootlickers is a national vice.

zadra wrote:

If by some miracle tomorrow I became a great pianist but remained locked inside my house, at most my neighbors would know.

Ok, but you probably wouldn't complain. Or rather, the TheSimon in question who made the objection doesn't seem shut in his house to me....or, no offense, I don't know if he is better than Gould. He certainly knows how to play the pf, judging by the previews of his records, some pieces he recorded for the forum and various experiments

Now, the point is whether TheSimon can be better or worse than Bahrami or, as you like to say, he isn't sitting in his place... perhaps Tiger's hypothesis is the most credible one.

TheSimon, could you record that passage you asked Foster for? Just to have a fourth example...? ...

zadra wrote:

Same thing if you decided to maintain a stubbornly elitist attitude.

I didn't understand this part, though

@Dino

Thank you for the consideration in your message.

I still have a very long way to go to reach Gould's level and in all probability I will never reach his level; there was only one Gould!

You are right about Tiger's hypothesis... Unfortunately, in this country, it takes a combination of three things to hold ambitious positions: the C factor, connections, and a lot of brown-nosing.

Not that I want to seem like more than I am, but I assure you that I know many people who have very ambitious jobs, earn figures in the order of 4000 euros per month, and perhaps have 1/4 of my curriculum vitae (not that it lists Nobel prizes, but it's certainly not exactly skimpy).

Regarding that passage, I should study it, because I have never read the Goldbergs. I intended to study them, but not now. Right now I have put under study Mozart's sonatas for the complete Sonatas/Fantasias and Chopin's Etudes op. 10. For the moment, I don't want to distract my attention with other pieces, but if you want, I can send you something technically even more difficult than that passage if you need it as a test for your left hand. Look at Chopin's Etude op. 10 no. 12. In any case, regarding the piece I asked Foster about, I didn't ask him to record it directly, but to let me hear a recording by Bharami so that I could compare it with Gould's (I am always talking about technique).

@Tiger

Exactly, that is why at 30 years old all my friends have a job and instead I had to invent a role for myself so as not to have to ask mom and dad for money.

I have never kissed anyone's ass and I never will! Even at the cost of having to eat bread and onions for life! And I don't want to settle. Because when my friends were "hanging out" on the low wall, smoking their first cigarettes and talking about football, I was at home with books or at the piano, so I don't settle!

A comment by Brunetta comes to mind... A lady had a son who graduated with honors (110 cum laude) and she meets Minister Brunetta on the street. She asks him for a job for her son and Brunetta replies (I am not quoting verbatim because I don't remember the exact words, but they were roughly these): "Of course, madam, if tomorrow you send your son to the general markets at 5 o'clock, you will see that he will surely find some job."

If I had been in that mother's place, I would have beaten him like a drum at the cost of spending the rest of my days in prison!

A mother invests money in her son, makes so many sacrifices, even depriving herself of essentials like a pair of socks to give him a better future, and you tell her to send him to the general markets? Go to the general markets yourself!!

Source Wikipedia: "On June 14, 2011, at the end of a conference on innovation in public administration, a worker from the Precari Network asked to ask a question and was invited to approach by Brunetta himself, but once the woman introduced herself as belonging to the network of precarious workers in public administration, he refused to listen to her, quickly leaving the hall, saying 'this is the worst Italy'. Following the controversy arising from this statement, the minister clarified, stating that he was referring to those who set media ambushes by exploiting the category of precarious workers, and not to the category of precarious workers themselves."

I would like to remind Minister Brunetta that if it weren't for people who have the high civic sense of believing in their own work and in the training of young people, culture and the university would have ended a long time ago. One of our university professors (Professor Carlo Gaibisso) used to come and give us lessons for FREE because the university had no funds! When I asked him why he did it, he told me: "Why? I do it for you. I have two daughters and I hope that in life they find people like me!". A great man! Obviously, he had his own job that allowed him to get by, which seems logical to me, but he was not at all required to take on these headaches.

Here, I think it is them, the politicians, who are the worst Italy! They have ruined a country and generations of people, they earn dizzying sums, they retire even with only a few years of service with a minimum of 3000 euros per month, they don't pay for restaurants, cinemas, public transport. In another country, they would have been kicked out on their asses a long time ago, but here they go around being praised as if they were supernatural beings; things like this only happen in Italy: the only country where everything works backwards.

People should start thinking that it is they who should be saying thank you to us and not vice versa; they are our EMPLOYEES, EM-PLOY-EES! They are paid by citizens and if they don't behave properly, as an employer does in his company, the citizens must "fire them" by good means or by bad."}{

Ah well, if the discussion is limited to Italy, I can only fully agree with you. It applies to all fields of the arts; being a painter isn't even considered a profession.