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Opening post by Thesimon

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A friend of mine spent 3 weeks singing a little tune she had fallen in love with, and I just couldn't understand what it could be. Finally today she calls me saying that she had finally managed to find this song on YouTube. She sends me the link and it was River flows in you by Yiruma.

Since you all know how I feel about these little tunes from the first year of composition, I was utterly discouraged.

I think that music today reflects society. A society of people who have no desire to do anything and who seek the simplest things because they do not want to grow and overcome their own limits. For this reason, to demonstrate what I think, I found the sheet music for this song and recorded it at sight... I repeat, at sight.

Now I want to make a bet against myself. I want to post this song on Facebook, writing its composer and performer, and I want to see how many likes it will receive. In a week, I will post Mozart's 12 Variations "Ah, vous dirai-je, Maman" which I have been preparing for over a month now, and I will see there too how many likes there will be. If it is as I think it will be, Yiruma's little song will receive many more likes than Mozart's variations, and I will have proven to myself that culture is doomed.

With resignation, Simone

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Reply 4 by antares86

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ahahahahahahha you're wasting your time I fear..... Mozart will take half if all goes well...

when I read it at sight I yawned all over it XD

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Reply 5 by Gorino

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I believe it was a terrible trial, Simone.

But resignation, I beg you, let's leave that to others.

As long as we have the possibility to choose.

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Reply 6 by Thesimon

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Terribly boring, I would say. In any case, the pianist must interpret even if what they are given is not to their liking. It's like someone having a recording studio and having to record things they don't like. What do you do, send them away?

One must always try to do one's job in the best possible way, even in this case...

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Reply 9 by Solminore

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I think the result is unfortunately predictable....

I was almost forced to play it because, being the soundtrack to Twilight, my brother's girlfriend gave me such a hard time; oh well, I had to please her.

But that is exactly the point: this type of commercial music, they blast it everywhere—in movies, in commercials, on the radio.... they even put it as the soundtrack for my cousin's wedding video.... Ergo, everyone knows that little tune, which, when associated with the movie scene, becomes a symbol of love and romance! In short, it's absurd!

But from the incompetent (musically speaking) to the amateur to the professional, I know this piece by Yiruma! They even give you dirty looks if you don't know how to play it!

I remember once on Christmas Day I was a guest at a friend's parents' house where there was a piano.... His cousin (who must have been about 18 years old) said to me, "Do you know how to play that Twilight one"!!!! She didn't exactly say, "Will you play Mozart's variation number x, or Chopin's étude number y...."

Mediatically, we are bombarded on all fronts by mediocre music... people are always in a hurry, they have neither the interest nor the time to listen to something serious, and they don't even have the sensitivity to be able to understand something serious.

We live in mediocre times, and the continuous cuts to culture on all fronts certainly do not make things better. I could open a separate chapter here and an infinite controversy.... but it wouldn't serve any purpose, I think it's useless, one must resign oneself.... in the end, those who have the possibility and the ability to choose will always remain a niche, unfortunately a shrinking one.

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Reply 10 by antares86

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thank goodness no one has ever asked me to play that stuff.... on the other hand they did ask me for the first prelude from the well-tempered clavier without knowing what it was, though ahahahha

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Reply 12 by antares86

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miracle!!!!!! and beautiful performance! (never been happier to be wrong about Yiruma/Mozart haha)

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Reply 13 by Solminore

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Among your FB friends, what percentage are "ordinary people" and what percentage are "industry professionals"?

It is clear that if a survey like this is addressed to an audience that consists for the most part of musicians (professionals or amateurs) or even simple enthusiasts, it is clear that Mozart wins by a landslide... Furthermore, the execution of the variations was well-cared for and well-done (it's obvious you've studied them quite a bit!) while the Yiruma piece was less polished (but as it should be, since it was sight-reading)....

It would be interesting to conduct the survey on a "standard" audience or one divided by age groups....

For example, among my FB friends, those who share/post classical pieces are very few and normally they are aged 35/40 and up....I deduce that, for example, in the 18-35 age group, certain music is unknown or otherwise little appreciated....and this, in my opinion, is the worrying data...

Naturally, mine is a generic discussion from which one could draw inspiration for other investigations and in-depth studies, but it absolutely does not mean to diminish the result of the test..

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Reply 14 by Gerardo

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I agree with Solminore, among my contacts I only have musicians... I doubt they will resist the urge to give a like to Mozart

But I liked the idea

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Reply 15 by LucaCavaliere

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The bombardment of mediocre music… the lack of musical education in new generations… increasingly smaller niches...

it is a battle!

We are all at the front. Each as they can: those who know how to play and those who know "only" how to listen.

Each where they can: some in the family, some in their circle of friends, some as teachers (of any school, of any discipline) even in friendly dialogue with their students.

Whoever believes they have a minimum of musical sensitivity… should pass it on as an inheritance. Or at least try to.

I try with my daughters, and sometimes with some of their companions, or some of my friends.

If the words 'battle' and 'front' are ugly, or brutal, let's talk about 'sowing'.

Let us try, each as they can, each in their own small way, to sow in young people how much beauty we ourselves have received. Let us try at every opportunity.

And when we get discouraged (it happens to me)… let us encourage one another.

[a bit delusional... excuse me]

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Reply 16 by Zazza

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And yet a century ago art music was not for everyone and did not reach everyone... to me it seems like the same situation, with the difference that now one has the possibility, if curious or intrigued, to access it easily.

It's not that before everyone chose to access concert halls and now they don't. Before there wasn't even the possibility, now there is... but perhaps everything remains unchanged.

So what battle? The usual Pausini lovers were there even in Schumann's time, only instead of listening to her on the radio or on the internet or on the iPod... they listened in the square. Certainly not in Theaters or in places accessible only to the nobility, who in the end frequented them only to show off or display their social status, rather than being truly interested in listening to what there was actually to hear.

Or at least, that is my idea....

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Reply 17 by CanCan

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Zazza wrote:

Certainly not in the Theaters or places accessible only to the nobility, who in the end frequented them only to show off or display their social status, rather than being truly interested in listening to what there actually was to hear.

In fact, one only needs to see who goes to the "Prima" of La Scala....

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Reply 18 by Organista94

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... liturgical music has always been a great vector, but there should have been reflections to be made, however.

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Reply 19 by Solminore

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@Zazza

This is a different matter... certainly even in the past certain music was niche... going to the theater was a way to stand out... a high society event....

The poor people had neither the means nor the possibility to listen to so-called cultured music, which is not the case today... Before, even if they had the will, they lacked the means (patience!) today instead we have the means but lack the will, the interest... and not just from us ordinary citizens, but especially on the part of institutions that do nothing but humiliate culture in general.

I have many friends who are professional musicians, very skilled and talented, who dedicate hours and hours of study per day (I am speaking generally, not just about the piano) and struggle greatly to make a living....

they play for a few euros and whoever hires you to play acts as if they are doing you a favor....It has also happened to me to hear people say things like "eh, but it's only about half an hour" ...so what?

Another example, about a year ago I attended a four-hands concert (free admission) funded by the province....there were about 15 people in the hall, of whom 10 left after the middle of the second piece, at which point the two pianists, after 3 pieces, stood up saying with great disappointment that the concert ended there. I was ashamed!

The means and the possibility exist today, it is the culture and the will that are lacking....and as long as pseudo-politicians declare that you can't eat with culture... the possibility of change is almost nil.

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