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Celibidache Music and Truth

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Reply 81 by Frank

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Viola wrote:

By bad books and bad music, I meant all that artistic and literary production whose first year of life will also be its last.

People should dedicate their short lives to getting to know the great masters of all centuries, the richly gifted spirits. Only artists and literati of this kind are capable of educating and teaching.

As far as bad music (and literature) is concerned, that is, music/literature whose sole purpose is to entertain or amuse, I find it useless, if not harmful, as it provides no nourishment.

A reading must lead to nourishment to be profitable; otherwise, one can do quite well without it.

Your personal vision, I do not dispute. But no one can establish that "the first year of its life will also be its last."

The rest of the post stems from this flawed premise; it is not I who refutes it, but the history of various works (which perhaps lasted only a year, let's say just the first?) that are considered absolute masterpieces today.

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Nourishment is made of many things, albeit personal ones. I see no absolutes.

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Reply 82 by Kappa

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Viola wrote:

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To return to On mode (Topic), I wish to thank Celibidache (user) for leading me to Celibidache (conductor).

I was totally unaware of his greatness.

...well... I'm the one who opened the topic (there are others scattered around the forum, if you're interested)

Until next time

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Reply 83 by Kappa

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just some ideas

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/4941-intervista-concessa-da-sergiu-celibidache-ulla-sua-amicizia-con-arturo-benedetti-michelangeli
http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/4055-celibidache-questo-festival-non-sadda-fa
http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/3593-meravigliosa-lezione-di-celibidache-in-video
http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/1693-le-viole-di-celibidache

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Reply 84 by Viola

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Kappa wrote:

Thank you.

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Reply 86 by RedScharlach

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Viola wrote:

I do not deny the authenticity of the quote, but I believe the context was quite different from the current one.

I believe that quotes should not only serve to confirm or corroborate our arguments, but also to allow us to savor the wonderful and surprising variety of the universe.

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Reply 87 by Frank

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I find it correct that the topic, purged of out-of-place comments, is still usable. Here it is to continue for those who might still want to.

Regarding the fact of whether or not the figure of a conductor is necessary, I invite you to reflect on this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXy21qsLY1A&feature=share

Even if there is physically no conductor, I mean the one who is on the podium with the baton, everyone is looking at the checkered shirt; in effect, a leader is also indicated. Practically speaking, the conductor is unavoidable; they play from memory, but it is a demanding marketing ploy.

What matters is the result and sometimes, even if a conductor is clearly visible, it really seems like there isn't one... but that is another matter.

Surely Celibidache was one of those who was there

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Reply 88 by GoffredoLIguri

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Wonderful, thanks Frank. Anyway, behind all of this there are hours of rehearsal, not like what is often done here ... one rehearsal and away :)

Even for this reason, there is so much music

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