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Morton Feldman and Western music

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Reply 22 by Valchiria

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scelsi wrote:

i was wondering if there is anyone who feels up to suggesting some "methodology" of approach to the analysis of Feldman's scores...

I would focus on the analysis of sound events in relation to time

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Reply 23 by Frank

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scelsi wrote:

i was wondering if there is anyone who feels up to suggesting some "methodology" of approach to the analysis of Feldman's scores...

I would start, for example, with String Quartet (II), with the score and the "palette" of panels at hand... there are only 128 events, each taking place on a page ... the whole thing lasts about 5 and a half hours

And then I would reflect on European music of the '80s

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Reply 26 by scelsi

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thanks frank!

i also wanted to draw attention to this piece for solo organ by feldman:

i don't know if you notice how the organ "sounds" timbrally very "feldman". the more I delve into feldman's music, the more it seems to me that his true starting point is this acoustic imagination of a "sound" and that all other parameters, see length, repetitions etc etc (among others changed over the years) are techniques to transcribe this "sound".

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Reply 27 by Tiger

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I had Frank send me the material; indeed, in a very dilated way, I find the technique of Nono/Scelsi when working with panels and differentiating a block that is proposed in repetition.

Just to make an initial comparison Feldman v/Occcindete ....

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Reply 28 by scelsi

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Tiger wrote:

Frank sent me the material; indeed, in a very expanded way, I find the technique of Nono/Scelsi when working with panels and differentiating a block that is proposed in repetition.

Just to make an initial comparison between Feldman v/Occcindete ....

tiger, just to get a little more into the specifics, in which works of Nono/Scelsi do you find this panel-based work comparable to Feldman?

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Reply 29 by Tiger

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Tiger wrote:

Frank sent me the material; indeed, in a very expanded way, I find the technique of Nono/Scelsi when working with panels and differentiating a block that is proposed in repetition.

Just to make an initial comparison between Feldman v/Occcindete ....

tiger, just to get a bit more concrete, in which works of Nono/Scelsi do you find this panel-based work comparable to Feldman?

In the microtonal pieces, look at the piece proposed by Frank by Scelsi and that of Nono for microtonal orchestra

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Reply 30 by Tiger

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scelsi wrote:

tiger, just to get a little more concrete, in which works of Nono/Scelsi do you find this panel work comparable to Feldman?

In the microtonal pieces, see the piece proposed by Frank from Scelsi and that of Nono for microtonal orchestra

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Reply 32 by Frank

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In effect, what for Nono is 2 measures, for Scelsi is a line, for Feldman is a page

However, in the first two we speak of defocusing; in Feldman's quartet... the sound events are very different

...we appear...we disappear...

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