Pieces containing twelfth chords

TheSimon wrote:

You made me want to hear you play, I am curious about this search for pieces with great openness. Post some videos...

As soon as I have time, I'll post one.

Bianca wrote:

...and they tell me I write like a heavy rain...

(If you're interested, I can give you some sheet music...)

Like what?

As Gerardo suggests, I would lean towards commissioning an ad hoc work from some composer, perhaps working closely with them as is usually done for somewhat "particular" pieces. Besides, who nowadays has a range of a twelfth? Certainly one in a thousand pianists. Too few to base one's pieces on non-"standardized" technical solutions.

Zazza wrote:

As Gerardo suggests, I would lean towards commissioning an ad hoc work from some composer, perhaps working closely with them as is usually done for somewhat "special" pieces. Besides, who nowadays has an opening of a twelfth? Certainly one in a thousand pianists. Too few to base one's pieces on non "standardized" technical solutions.

I simply asked if in the piano repertoire of the 1800s and 1900s there exist non-arpeggiated chordal complexes of this extension, because I have never found any. I am not interested in asking a composer to write something.

Of course, Be4stElectrjc, I only wanted to say that these are technicalities related to specific hand morphology. I only know Alkan by name, but seeing when the piano imposed itself, spread, and when piano technique by reflex had its evolution, it is already quite something that in the 1800s there was something that suited your needs. In effect, Chopin confirms himself to be a great innovator, Rachmaninoff could afford it, given his hands... furthermore, both wrote and played, so why not invest energy in pieces suitable for one's own hand and technique?

I don't know which other composer might meet your needs, but I would dig into Liszt, Scriabin, and here piano-playing composers with large hands who could afford to perform sixteenth notes and write them into their own works. Unfortunately, I can only reason in terms of "selection."

If I had to insert sixteenth notes into the pieces I write, not being a pianist myself, I would rely on precise indications from the client. It also comes to mind that when searching through the repertoire for solo hand, having one hand and a large keyboard available, it might happen that some daring passages occur.

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/3638-repertorio-mano-sinistra

I hope to have been at least minimally useful

Zazza wrote:

Not to mention anything else Be4stElectrjc, I just wanted to say that these are technicalities related to specific hand morphology. I only know Alkan by name, but seeing when the pf [piano forte] established itself, spread, and when piano technique by reflex had its evolution, it is already quite something that in the 1800s there was something that suits your needs. In effect, Chopin confirms himself to be a great innovator, Rachmaninoff could afford it, given his hands... furthermore, both wrote and played, so why not invest energy in pieces suitable for one's own hand and technique?

I don't know which other composer might meet your needs, but I would dig into Liszt, Scriabin, and here piano-playing composers with large hands who could afford to perform sixteenth notes and write them into their own works. Unfortunately, I can only reason in terms of "selection."

If I had to insert sixteenth notes into the pieces I write, not being a pianist myself, I would rely on precise instructions from the client. It also comes to mind that when searching in the solo repertoire, having one hand available and a large keyboard, it might happen that some daring passages occur.

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/3638-repertorio-mano-sinistra

I hope to have been at least minimally useful

No problem, thanks for the help.

Be4stElectrjc wrote:

Type?

i don't know, I had put something here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgJBYzlpNo

even if now I see that it is no longer clearly visible, if you are interested I will send you a pdf.

Open content (youtube)

Bianca wrote:

i don't know, I had put something here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pgJBYzlpNo

even if now I see that it doesn't look good anymore, if you are interested I will send you a pdf.

Send the pdf if you can.

Open content (youtube)