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Reply 41 by Frank

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Lucas wrote:

Interesting, how does it work?

It's quite simple: you will find a topic with a fragment to harmonize (we'll see which one later), make your own version, and on the agreed date, post your elaboration proposing at least one score; if then you have the time and desire to play it or prepare a playback... all the better

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Reply 42 by rstrauss

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Gassy wrote:

I would like to propose a bass line to harmonize, I am a bit in difficulty and I would like to see solutions from others... how should I do it?

Is it enough if I give the coordinates? Who is in?

Late October works fine for me too.

It could be a good initiative, especially for the benefit of those who are starting out.

Just one more thing I would propose: whoever wants to, in addition to harmonizing the bass (mandatory), can also move the theme to the other voices and present other harmonizations, as we have already done.

just to make life a little more complicated for us !!!!!!!!!

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Reply 43 by Frank

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The next defined commitments are:

- variations

- fugue

- piece for piano

If you agree, I would reschedule the commitments up until mid-summer, something like

- variations (mid-March)

- fugue (mid-May)

- piece for piano (late July)

For September, I noticed there is a competition without age limits and with pre-established material, which would align with the needs of our LABs

At the end of the year, perhaps the classic choral music piece; maybe we could dust off the Christmas Mass and try to write the missing parts or create alternatives to the proposals already made.

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Reply 45 by Frank

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Piccinesco wrote:

Franck, but isn't the piano theme the one taken from a piece by Rachmaninoff?

I don't know where it was taken from, RStrauss chose it. Here is the topic

http://www.pianoconc...ianoforte-2013/

That Rachmaninoff one was for last year's workshop... mind you, composition workshops are always open. So if you like the theme, go ahead

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And don't pretend nothing happened regarding the fugue, eh! :)

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Reply 46 by Piccinesco

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What, you don't know that the fugue is "in progress"? I'll see what I can do.

That theme (for the piano piece) seems exactly like the one used for 2012 (I didn't play it, but the rhythm reminds me of it).

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Reply 47 by Piccinesco

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So wait, I saw the attachment, in the other post it showed another one, ok., regarding this one about the piano I'll see if I can write it, you know, we are "always" on the same old topic.

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Reply 48 by AbateFaria

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Frank wrote:

At the end of the year, perhaps the classic choral music piece; maybe we could dust off the Christmas Mass and try to write the missing parts or create alternatives to the proposals already made.

Wasn't the De Profundis mentioned?

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Reply 49 by pianistamaggiorenneDi38

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Frank wrote:

I would like to know how many composers or aspiring ones are registered on the forum, but also self-taught enthusiasts etc. who are interested in the subject.

I am asking because I would like to launch this initiative; I would like to propose a 4-bar theme (something simple for piano) and discuss the pieces we will write (I'll join the queue first).

Some points of reflection on the purpose of the initiative:

- Starting from the same point and comparing works produced by people with different (or similar) study paths

- Comparing one's own solutions with those adopted by others

- Stimulating the curiosity of less experienced members

- Getting used to forming a critical sense towards others' pieces and receiving constructive criticism

- I will open a topic where we can address difficulties together

- Spreading one's own music

- Getting to know each other; it's one thing to hear about Frank, and another to listen to Frank's music

- Sharing and pleasure (in short, writing a piece not for work, study, or exams)

- Etc.

It will be necessary to produce a score and a playback because there might be those who do not know how to play the pf... and, above all for the less experienced, it is better to have support (even if "unskilled") for listening. There are those who might even propose live performances

To participate, I wouldn't set any kind of limit other than a deadline; let's say late May, so as to leave plenty of time for sign-ups and for working on it.

Let me know if I am proposing something out of this world and we will see what needs to be done... I hope at least questions, objections, etc., come in.

very interesting, I'm in, doing composition exercises always interests me. I am a composer; I don't know how to write fugues but I have always been interested in writing my own music, which I have been doing for a few years. It is always a little adventure. I can play it and make the score or at least a 'leadsheet', as jazz musicians say (depending on how easy it is for me to do the notation).

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Reply 50 by pianistamaggiorenneDi38

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acc.....I thought the post had been created in Feb 2013, instead it was last year. And I wasn't even drunk.

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Reply 51 by Gassy

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pianistamaggiorenneDi38 wrote:

acc.....I thought the post had been created in Feb 2013, but instead it was last year. And I wasn't even drunk.

Just to give you a tip

http://www.pianoconc...dei-laboratori/

The topic was opened last year but it is a living subject...that I have been following for a while now, I participated in the workshop on low harmonization...useful.

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Reply 52 by Frank

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pianistamaggiorenneDi38 wrote:

very interesting, I'm in, doing composition exercises always interests me. I am a composer; I don't know how to write fugues but I have always been interested in writing my own music, which I have been doing for a few years now. It is always a little adventure. I can play it and make the score or at least a 'leadsheet', as jazz musicians say (it depends on how easy it is for me to do the notation).

As you wish PianistaMaggiorenneDi38, I don't know if you have taken a look at the link proposed by Gassy; if there is a past topic that interests you, you can propose your own version, or if instead you are interested in a particular area that has been (or hasn't been) covered, try to propose something.

Among the next new initiatives are the fugue and the piece for piano; aside from the audio, I have noticed that the score can be useful for deepening the analysis and perhaps offering a more specific suggestion—in short, see how you want to proceed. Ask if necessary.

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Reply 53 by Frank

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Between the fugue (in progress) and the piece for piano (end of July), how would you see a very, very simple bass that a new friend is proposing to me?

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Reply 54 by rstrauss

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Frank wrote:

Between the fugue (in progress) and the piece for piano (end of July), how would you see a very, very simple bass that a new friend is proposing to me?

for me, end of June is fine.

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Reply 57 by rstrauss

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so to summarize 2013 with the things already set:

- fuga - in progress

- bass to be harmonized - end of June

- piece for piano - end of July

we could also put down something for September and for the end of the year.

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Proposal for the end of the year

Complete the 2010 Christmas Mass (republished in April 2012 http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/834-laboratorio-messa-di-natale-2010/ )

The Credo for the fixed parts would be missing, and I would also propose writing another 4 songs to complete the other parts of the mass:

1 song for the beginning

1 for the offertory

1 for communion

1 for the end

We would thus have 5 pieces to write, one per person, or whoever wants can also write two, with the advantage that the 4 pieces, apart from the Credo, would be easier to realize

for those who are not familiar with long forms.

The instrumentation should be the one chosen then: choir and piano.

Only variation for the offertory piece, which could also be a cappella.

We would thus have a complete mass for choir and piano to perform at Christmas.

As for the texts, I could commit myself to finding 4 Christmas ones.

I await your opinions.

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Reply 58 by AbateFaria

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I am extremely busy, but for a bass and Christmas, I might be able to work a miracle

A few posts back on Frank, he had proposed the same thing and I remembered this:

AbateFaria wrote:

Wasn't De Profundis mentioned?

Given the low probability that I will participate... you decide

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Reply 59 by rstrauss

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AbateFaria wrote:

I am extremely busy, but for a bass and Christmas, I might be able to work a miracle

He had proposed the same thing in a post about Frank a while back, and I remembered this:

Given the low probability of participation... you decide

In fact, I have taken up and expanded on Frank's proposal.

We could even write the De Profundis, but certainly not for Christmas!!!!!!

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