The "best" Replacement In This Context

geppino12575 wrote:

we do not know the melody, we do not know the tempo, is this piece a ballad or a medium or an up..? Above those chords, which notes "sing"? Furthermore, is it a totally tonal piece or is it only tonal in this passage? These are all fundamental aspects in order to be able to give an exhaustive answer.

... indeed...

geppino12575 wrote:

Then there is another aspect to consider: we don't know the melody, we don't know the tempo, is this piece a ballad or a medium or an up..? Above those chords, which notes "sing"? Furthermore, is it a totally tonal piece or is it only tonal in this passage? These are all fundamental aspects in order to be able to give an exhaustive answer.

Discussion on Ballad, medium, etc ....

I had attempted to follow this topic but, despite Dr's skill, I still have doubts

http://www.pianoconcerto.it/forum/index.php?/topic/1034-ballad-medium-e-similari/

I don't know if the metronomic indication is enough to establish whether it is a medium or not, but we are around 60 per quarter note

It is a tonal piece with a few tension notes in the melody; clearly G/C was a poor synthesis ...

Anyway, thanks to everyone, this topic has been very educational for me

I thank Geppino (whom I am happy to see again) for the "touch of class"; actually, it is a tritone substitution, taken a bit further (the tritone itself is missing); it's something I saw Joey Calderazzo do where in a Rhythm Changes he would substitute a D7 with Ab7, then with Ab13sus4, and finally played a Gb∆. Very tasty. It's fun to use it on songs like You don't know what love is, for example at the beginning: C-7, Ab7 in which the Ab7 is replaced (in the solo) by Gb∆/Ab. Of course, it's a bit much to handle...

But you You don't know play it in C..? I in F...

The discussion on key is interesting, indeed a fourth below or a fifth above is quite a "leap"... don't you think it also distorts it a bit?

geppino12575 wrote:

But you You don't know play it in C..? I in F...

darn it, it's true! The original is in F. I don't know why these overly romantic pieces come out in C for me.

Egidio wrote:

The discussion about key is interesting, indeed a fourth below or a fifth above is quite a "leap"... don't you think it also distorts it a bit?

Not necessarily, in Jazz it happens quite often; it also depends heavily on the performer (voice, sax, trumpet ...).

True, but I was thinking about the overall effect... in general if a piece went too high or too low, a transposition would be extremely detrimental in terms of being "unintentionally" placed

No, but it's not a question of fourth or fifth distance "transposition", it's a matter of harmonic substitution...