Ok, can we get back on topic please?
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Ok, can we get back on topic please?
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I hadn't participated in this discussion (which I did read, however). It is a bit difficult, strange, to re-enter topics - even others - as if nothing had happened.
I subscribe to the concise opinions of Thallo and Daniele. I am also sorry that for this chat about nutrition & terms & wisdom... Carlos is no longer here to dialogue.
I dare to suppose that "in person" (for example at a bar) it would have ended much better.
We all have flaws and rough edges to smooth out... unfortunately, I am far too preoccupied with mine.
From what I see in another... those are their problems. But if a person has nine unpleasant sides and one virtue, I try to focus on that.
with bitterness
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I am posting this last message trying to provide sound reasons, after which for me the subject is closed regardless of what is said.
Multiple times during these "almost two years" I have been running after people, even trying several times to suppress my instinctive way of acting in order to try and keep things peaceful. I have realized two things. The first is that the forum is an environment that must be experienced by people who feel on the same level as others. Giving advice serenely is one thing; imposing notions and saying that others do not participate in topics, implying they are not up to the task, means offending; I cannot find a term that better describes this concept. The second is that no one helps me here when it comes to arguing with others or moderating, and forgive me if I remind you that it is easy to say "I'm sorry" after the fact. As far as I can remember, it has never happened to me to be the first to adopt arrogant attitudes toward someone, and if I have been misunderstood at times, I have always been willing to apologize. Obviously, if I am attacked, I do not just stand there taking it, and I defend myself by attacking in turn. Being attacked personally, I cannot always play the peacemaker, and there is never anyone who comes to act as a peacemaker on my behalf to calm the waters. Thus, attacking me by saying that I only kick users out when I am personally confronted is a phrase that completely loses its meaning as soon as it is written. In a nightclub, if two guys start arguing verbally, the bouncer tries to calm things down, but when the bouncer himself is confronted, there is no one else who takes it upon themselves to act as a peacemaker, and the result is that the guy gets kicked out of the venue.
The point is that the idea of this forum was precisely to create a place where there were no "know-it-alls," as was euphemistically reported in the emails I received—that is, a place where everyone would make their experience, culture, and professionalism available in a simple and pleasant way without having the arrogance of feeling steps above others. Furthermore, I want to emphasize and remind you that I was ready to settle the matter privately over the phone; the (arrogant) response I received for it can be read a few posts back.
There are many other people in this forum who, like Carlos, have made a very important contribution; one of them is Frank, just as an example, who is also a moderator, not by chance, and regarding whom I have never received any complaint emails. If I have received about fifteen regarding Carlos, perhaps there is a reason.
Lastly, and then I will close here because it doesn't seem to me necessary to justify myself when I perform due cleaning; I tell you this with the utmost tranquility: I no longer have any intention of getting angry over occurrences like this, and believe me when I say that I am experiencing this with maximum serenity. Whoever makes a mistake goes out; it is a concept of disarming simplicity... That is how it goes on other forums, that is how it works within any social group, and for some time now, that is also how it goes in this forum. No one pays me to get angry, and in fact, I have been far too accommodating on this and many other occasions with Carlos that you don't even know about, but there is a limit to everything.
This is the policy, and allow me to say that a world with this policy would solve quite a few problems... Whoever makes a REAL contribution to the site is rewarded and respected by others, as it should be. Whoever wants to impose themselves on others by discrediting them or defining them as not being up to par is removed. I really don't see where this logic fails...
Regards to all
PS. If you think that the original argument can no longer be taken from this topic, tell me so I can close it and the problem will be over.
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TheSimon wrote:PS. If you think that the original argument can no longer be taken in this topic, tell me so I can close it and the problem will be over.
Since I am its author, from my point of view it can be discarded... anyway, it's not even about musical content.