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Why: "Für Elise"

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Reply 41 by Per

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No no guys, let's be clear: (I certainly expressed myself poorly) the manuscript I have attached is from 1822 (the handwriting is unmistakable), which is what Beethoven proposed for publication with the modifications that I will let you hear shortly here: http://www.lvbeethoven-music.it/Beethoven-Mp3/WoO/WoO059a.mp3 . As the text I attached says, the first one is lost. (Nohl was a great person, and I truly believe so). I will undertake to translate it, for better or worse with our Goethe.

The klavierstuck for piano in a-minor, "Für Elise", WoO 59,

Hello everyone! While looking for someone who played the pieces of Für Elise for which Beethoven's original manuscripts remain, I found this forum. I would like to know if it is possible to listen to the musical file that I quoted above because it no longer works

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Reply 42 by OrlandiArmando

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Hello, pleasure to meet you!

So you can find the version of the bagatelle here on my site: http://www.lvbeethoven.it/Opere/Beethoven-Midi-Mp3-Altre-Klavierstucke.html#WoO213

WoO 213 is the new numbering of the piece. Looking back at my response from around 2013 regarding this subject, I have lost some certainty regarding the existence of two manuscripts. One would need 3 lifetimes, a lot of free time and other priorities to investigate this matter thoroughly.

Friendship and esteem,

http://www.lvbeethoven.it/Opere/Beethoven-Midi-Mp3-Altre-Klavierstucke.html#WoO213

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Reply 43 by danielescarpetti

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OrlandiArmando wrote:

Hello, my pleasure!

So you can find the version of the trifle here on my site: http://www.lvbeethoven.it/Opere/Beethoven-Midi-Mp3-Altre-Klavierstucke.html#WoO213

WoO 213 is the new numbering of the piece. Looking back at my response from around 2013 regarding this subject, I have lost some certainty concerning the existence of two manuscripts. One would need 3 lives, a lot of free time, and other priorities to investigate this matter thoroughly.

Friendship and esteem,

Wise words my friend... wise words!

But even without having 3 lives at our disposal and, in the only one we are given, little time for everything, it is fascinating to discover how our point of view can change diametrically and be a source of novelty, emotions, disappointments, curiosity ... even when youth - I speak for myself, obviously - is something you now see through binoculars.

Bye Armando!

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Reply 44 by OrlandiArmando

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Absolutely Daniele

The more time passes, the more I am certain of having no certainties. Moral and material fixed points are typical of youth; I see it with my children, full of firm certainties. Now that I have reached a certain age (which belongs mostly to my body and only partially to my mind), I have become - strangely - much less critical and more serene, even in accepting the illnesses of my loved ones, like a wheel of life that inevitably turns for everyone. Isn't this sad, you know Daniele? Living in the countryside, the alternation of the seasons becomes a philosophy of life. I only regret not being able to do (I mean on the site) everything I promised myself, solely due to material and existential time constraints. (Intellectual limits, alas, are not avoidable). However, I am convinced that thanks to this work, others will do better, starting at least from this base.

And for me (but I am also convinced for you) it is already a victory.

A hug, dear Daniele

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Reply 46 by OrlandiArmando

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Hello dear Simone!

it's Steven Beck, a rather obscure North American pianist, I would say, but whom I am in contact with...

Friendship,

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Reply 47 by MassimoVanBeethoven

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Dearest Armando,

your website is unsurpassed.

Of course age is often associated with wisdom. While diseases and old age are injustices, they are unnatural. Just think of Beethoven and what the imperfect human mind can produce!

We must look up, "beyond the starry vault" and "recognize the Creator", our "lieber Vater".

A hug

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